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Zaphroid Eulthran
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Posted - 2008.03.20 14:14:00 -
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I have been looking at the proposed Council Of Stellar Management, and along with many other people have predicted that most if not all of the positions will be taken by characters from the big 0.0 alliances.
I am not saying this is a bad thing but I am saying it is going to happen.
Now, from the info given out by CCP it is known that a vast majority of players are based in high security space, these people could easaly out vote any and all alliances, what the people of hisec dont have is the unity of an alliance to single mindedly vote in one direction.
The idea behind the council is for a few payers to represent the masses in all mannor of EvE activity, What I am worried about is having a bunch of gung-ho 0.0 alliance types presenting (or not) the concerns of hisec players. Not that they wouldnt want to but that by not being involved in it they wouldnt have the necessary experiance.
I propose to champion a Voice of the Hisec community to put out a name that the masses can rally behind to put their ideas and concerns to CCP without bias.
This post is an attempt to find that person, I/we need a well known and most importantly trustworthy resident of hisec who has experiance of everything from mining to manufacture from complexing to mission running, someone who wants a week long trip to Iceland
Please feel free to put forward any candidates or ideas that may help the cause Hi-Sec Industry NEEDS Mini Freighters <- not T2 bazillion ISK alliance toys |

Zaphroid Eulthran
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2008.03.20 15:35:00 -
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Thankyou for all the responces so far, we seem to have drifted a little off target but on the whole the discussion has been revealing.
With the possible exception of Tarmanic all of the opposition to hisec dwellers getting a say in their game has come from big alliance members.
And Kagura Nikon thank you so much for your post, you have provided a brilliant insight into the thought process of the type of person we really dont need.
I dont deny that the most blood thirsty pirate can be civilised when not plugged into his ship, but what can the player who controls that pirate know about the problems ascociated with the day to day running of a small scale mine to manufacture corp?
Hi-Sec Industry NEEDS Mini Freighters <- not T2 bazillion ISK alliance toys |

Zaphroid Eulthran
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2008.03.20 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
So you would rather vote for someone who's experience limited to what you know, rather than someone who's experience encompasses what you know, and also how that relates to other aspects of the game?
How does that make you any different from the people you are speaking out against?
You are immediately falling in to the trap of seeing only as far as a players affiliation, and not their experience.
Yes I would rather vote for someone who represents my way of playing EvE, I am not calling for all members of CSM to be HiSec based, just one of them would be enough.
I am speaking out against people who dismiss my type of playing as wasting time and missing the true point of EvE. I am not dissmissing the loSec life, infact I accept the way they choose to play and request that they dont try to force me to change how I play.
I know that many 0.0 players or Pirates will have HiSec mission or Mining alts and see this as the necessisary experiance to govern it, but it really isnt. Doing something as a part time alt and having something as your main playstyle is very different, its not just knowledge of the game mechanic its the state of mind involved in doing it. Hi-Sec Industry NEEDS Mini Freighters <- not T2 bazillion ISK alliance toys |

Zaphroid Eulthran
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2008.03.20 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Zaphroid Eulthran With the possible exception of Tarmanic all of the opposition to hisec dwellers getting a say in their game has come from big alliance members.
I didn't actually object to it - I was just saying that the perception that 0.0 players hate carebears may be different from the reality because all 0.0 empires have ties to high-sec industry and mission running to some extent.
Misunderstanding I think, I called you the exception because you were expressing a positive viewpoint in apparant contradiction with you being a member of an alliance.
I believe its not a hatred as such, but a failure to see the reasoning why HiSec people do what they do. The 0.0 crowd cant see why everyone doesnt want to be in 0.0 industry and mining has nothing to do with it, it is where people choose to be that upsets them.
Hi-Sec Industry NEEDS Mini Freighters <- not T2 bazillion ISK alliance toys |
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